July 30, 2006
Ok hell, what have I got to loose!
JW, my point is the people that are still here need to see & hear from all the chapter administrators and that would be fine for us. Members speculate what they see & what they hear. If they see and hear odd things going on the members here get a little uncomfortable, if they see folks leaving to other sites like? they follow. Monkey see, Monkey do, I guess we lost a few monkeys then!
This site, and the Cal chapter has always had a overtone of what (and has allowed folks to call it ) a club should be, well is it or not! That's the confusing part, folks feel that they need to belong. What's more important now is what does the Cali membership think of FTW today? "That" was the magic that made our chapter what it was and still could be that it was a club, that they did belong and everyone was active.
I saw past threads on "We need new business cards" What happened to the thought of trying to bring in new members? and discussions of new things to come? Hell I haven't seen an introduction of a new Cal member in a long time on this forum and now the very few new members that come here are now introducing themselves. And what about those FTW Cali chapter T-shirts? Are we representing a site? or a Club? Hmmmmmm. I know this is a forever revolving door, that's just the nature of the beast but you can have members that are forever commited to the very end even if they take a break or what ever they can always come back. Those that have questioned this thread is a good example of them, but I personally don't think any of the leaders should do that without saying anything. They are the core of the group, they are the driving force that makes the Cali magic and develops the culture of what this eh hmm club is. If you need a break we need to hear from you or you need to make the replacement otherwise because of what FTW has gone through folks will wonder.
You see, now we have a thread wondering why one of the most respected members "Toolman" whom we all love is "Taking a break"? Some have to wonder when your gallery is no longer there and some have come to conclusions that "Maybe he left" and for what reason? Some would only think the worst based on FTW's past battle history. Mike I have nothing but respect for you but we need to hear from you personally, not from a second, third or fourth party.
Do I blame the leaders JW? Well, yes & no as you can see the members now might think we can make decisions about replacing folks. I thought that was your job! When the leadership stops talking we all loose an get confused What do we do now? Well that's up to you but things need to change IMO. But I do think that an announcment about Mike should have been in order so "Threads like this" would have never been posted.
Why no? Because that's the way it has always been, and this is the results.
There is a difference between forcing and motivating with the right people and game plan, that is if you have one. I think it boils down to your thoughts and plans that you instill in your chain of commands. No you can't make people stay but you can keep the ones that were/are still here on the right track, loyal and commited. I am, I'm just waiting to see what happens like everybody else. And who said you can't conduct your chapter they way you want anyhow? I would love to see a monthy meeting somewhere to discuss events changes etc... besides it would make up for lost G2G's, but maybe that's to much work for anyone to ask and it wouldn't be fun anymore. Or would it?
Also, (and I really don't care) at this point no one know's why or what to do to get members more active (I have idea's but if you want to call me on that you can) but this crap of scolding folks for not showing to a G2G like Lynn has done many times is BS. Why would I want to come back? It not like we have a lot to look up to nowadays but to get flamed from someone who doesn't participate with us like he use to is beyond me.
Why do I not participate like most folks? well I had a scuffle with a few folks and did not feel comfortable showing when they did, I didn't call you on that because I can hold my own but I would suspect that word would get around some how that they'd get addressed, but no. Policing the members attitudes around here does not exist. Only the "Ten" staff posts things in regards to the site's rules, at least I am glad that they do that.
Replace those that needs replacing or needs to take a break and we will have a new ballgame and this thread will be no more then a distant memory.
Or maybe this "is" just a truck forum and no more, so I'll shut up now!
A concerned FTW member!