October 22, 2011I see what I see, I do my due diligence and am quite capable of seeing both sides, I do not make the assumption that all OWS members are bad, I am sure, by having witnessed first hand that they are not, I have also witnessed first hand a Tea Party gathering, that makes me on some level able to compare the two, your posts to date have shown little objectivity to the casual reader, but I`m sure you can dispel or deflect that comment as well.
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October 22, 2011You`re confusing objectivity with educated opinion. I share my opinion which was acquired through objective education.
Call it deflection if it helps, but that doesn`t make it any less true.
October 22, 2011What IS your opinion of OWS? I call them like I see them, no confusion on my part.
October 23, 2011Since given on page one (you did READ page one, right), my opinions have evolved with time as should the movement. The objective of bringing the message to the forefront through passive-aggressive protest has been accomplished, it is time to move on with the movement. The idea of America moving away from big banks and towards smaller local banks or better yet credit unions needs to be emphasized. The drive towards voter revolt away from the 2 parties which are responsible for this countries predicament needs to begin.
Have you educated yourself enough yet to formulate an opinion? Or are you still allowing the opinion of others do it for you?
Funny thing is, you are on record here supporting some of the primary issues supported by the Occupy Movement.
October 23, 2011I have a complete understand of the movement, it`s inability to unite and form a tangible set of goals. I have never let others influence my opinion in the least, I see what I see and call them the same way! I do support a total revamping of our political system, but do not support anarchy, It is my opinion that OWS has not true goals, may in fact be directed by a political means in fact, and will serve at some point some small group of currently elected officials and there backers.
It is also my opinion that the Tea Party is infested with fake, phony, fraud conservatives that will use any and all means necessary to use this movement to serve themselves and retain their power at all cost.
The funny thing is that with each and every post you continue to attempt to show your intellectual superiority over me by alluding to the fact that you somehow maintain a far reaching presence that makes you all knowing, just saying??? I am not buying it! I may be a backwoods country boy who clings to his God and his guns, but then again, I may not be just that.
October 23, 2011..."...it`s inability to unite and form a tangible set of goals"...
History has shown that not to be a requirement in the beginning of all movements. Anarchy this is not.
..."I have never let others influence my opinion in the least,"...
..."Just looking over the list of those supporting the Occupy movement tells me about all I need to know about it."...
If nothing else, you remain in a constant state of contradiction.
..."It is also my opinion that the Tea Party is infested with fake, phony, fraud conservatives that will use any and all means necessary to use this movement to serve themselves and retain their power at all cost."...
I will agree and expand to include any and all "movements" where any substantial numbers are present, also included would be bigotry and crime. An unfortunate reality of human nature.
Your infatuation with the superiority you seem to find me in possession of is really getting to be a tiresome fallback. It has been addressed repeatedly and is apparently incomprehensible. It will not be addressed again.
What you are or are not, by your own admission, is not always truthful here. Bringing all your comments into question.
October 23, 2011One thing I am is a believer in God and the way that made America great, the new, remade America is not the way! In God I trust, H & K and Barrett are just the Sgt. at Arms! As for looking at who is supporting any movement, many times a person or movement is judged by the company it keeps! I was once told by a very wise man, never trust a man wearing body armor while in a secure location, I now see his point!
If as you say this is the case with all movements of any size, then the classic definition of stupidity comes into play here, doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results! I see more socialism in the OWS movement then in the Tea Party; I would favor restricting federal government size and limiting federal power to any move toward socialism any day of the week. Your comments on being a business owner and making a living from capitalism to feed your family is in direct contradiction to your left leaning while still uncommitted postings. Perhaps it is you that feels confused?
October 23, 2011I am not a believer in mythology, however that is an irrelevant point. Stupidity absolutely comes into play, however in my post it has nothing to do with anticipated results. You see socialism everywhere outside your circle.
..."As for looking at who is supporting any movement, many times a person or movement is judged by the company it keeps!"...
Only by the uneducated and/or those lacking in objectiveness.
..."Your comments on being a business owner and making a living from capitalism to feed your family is in direct contradiction to your left leaning while still uncommitted postings."...
The only confusion here is on your part. Capitalism is possible without taking it to the extreme detriment of society. I example this daily with all my business ventures. Your inability to understand the commitment in my postings is on you and of no concern to me.
October 23, 2011"I am not a believer in mythology; however that is an irrelevant point. Stupidity absolutely comes into play, however in my post it has nothing to do with anticipated results. You see socialism everywhere outside your circle."
Your beliefs or the lack there of are of no interest to me what so ever, If as you indicated in you post, all movements fall victim to self serving members then the Stupidity Rule would cover any movement. I only see socialism when it is present!
"Only by the uneducated and/or those lacking in objectiveness."
I am neither and yes, one can be judged by the company one keeps!
"Capitalism is possible without taking it to the extreme detriment of society."
On this point only, I agree, but this goes much deeper than I wish to discuss on this forum.
"I example this daily with all my business ventures. Your inability to understand the commitment in my postings is on you and of no concern to me."
So you say, I know you will find it easy to understand my having no concern for you either, but I would help you in time of need if I was ever in the neighborhood, and you needed help, and I could provide said help!
October 23, 2011http://nymag.com/dail...
Based on the information in the article, it would seem the movement is in the midst of one or more of those "Teaching Moments" Karma is a*******comrade!
October 23, 2011Thanks for exampling my point on large gatherings of multiple personalities.
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