May 9, 2009
The universe could not have expanded very far in 10,000 years.
You are correct, Plane. It hasn''t.
‚ÄúYet nonstop erosion poses a difficult problem for the very existence of Saturn‚Äôs opaque rings‚ÄĒthe expected bombardment rate would pulverize the entire system in only 10,000 years! Most of this material is merely redeposited elsewhere in the rings, but even if only a tiny fraction is truly lost (as ionized vapor, for example), it becomes a real trick to maintain the rings since the formation of the solar system [as imagined by evolutionists].‚ÄĚ Jeffrey N. Cuzzi, ‚ÄúRinged Planets: Still Mysterious‚ÄĒII,‚ÄĚ Sky & Telescope, Vol. 69, January 1985, p. 22.
‚ÄúSaturn‚Äôs rings (as well as the recently discovered ring system around Ur****) are unstable, therefore recent formations.‚ÄĚ S. K. Vsekhsvyatsky, ‚ÄúComets and the Cosmogony of the Solar System,‚ÄĚ Comets, Asteroids, Meteorites, editor A. H. Delsemme (Toledo, Ohio: The University of Toledo, 1977), p. 473.
Let‚Äôs assume an old Earth and at least a fifth of the atmospheric carbon dioxide needed to prevent a runaway ice age had been present throughout the Earth‚Äôs first 2,750,000,000 years. That carbon dioxide would have combined with weathered rocks to produce large amounts of the mineral siderite (FeCO3). Siderite is missing from ancient soils, showing that the concentrations of carbon dioxide needed to prevent a frozen Earth were never present. [See Rob Rye et al., ‚ÄúAtmospheric Carbon Dioxide Concentrations before 2.2 Billion Years Ago,‚ÄĚ Nature, Vol. 378, 7 December 1995, pp. 603‚Äď605.]
‚ÄúThere is no direct evidence to show that carbon dioxide levels were ever a thousand times higher.‚ÄĚ Gregory Jenkins, as quoted by Tim Folger, ‚ÄúThe Fast Young Earth,‚ÄĚ Discover, November 1993, p. 32.
. William R. Kuhn, ‚ÄúAvoiding a Permanent Ice Age,‚ÄĚ Nature, Vol. 359, 17 September 1992, p. 196.
. In 1972, Carl Sagan and George H. Mullen first proposed that the early Earth had lots of heat-trapping methane and ammonia. They had no evidence for early methane and ammonia, they simply were looking for something that might have warmed the Earth, so there would have been no runaway deep freeze and life could have evolved. At the time of Sagan‚Äôs death (1996), he was still looking.
. For a frank admission of these and other ‚Äúspecial pleadings,‚ÄĚ see Carl Sagan and Christopher Chyba, ‚ÄúThe Early Faint Sun Paradox: Organic Shielding of Ultraviolet-Labile Greenhouse Gases,‚ÄĚ Science, Vol. 276, 23 May 1997, pp. 1217‚Äď1221.
There''s a bit of the info to refute that one from cosmology, and if you want to hear a refute from earth sciences, you better grab a Snickers bar, Plane, ''cause you''re gonna be here for a while.